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is the environment todayyee i f still a good place to in more or less friendly? >> there is no compare ton. when mr. putin came in, he changed the tax code which made a huge difference.ie ton. when mr. putin came in, he changed the tax code which made a huge difference. it was 13% flat tax, corporation tax 24% and suddenly you couldn't invest in companies because could you understand what was in the financials of the company. so accounting firms grew. advisory firms grew and the market became a much better place to invest. so today i don't believe there is a huge difference. you just have to understand the environment. >> so does it create opportunities? if you're looking around the world and not seeing a lot of attractive places, should russia be one of them? >> russia should be. it's growing at 4%. it's the biggest consumer market in europe. so there is enormous amount of opportunity. the problem has been and continues to be the perception western investors have about investing there. so there is this sort of idea that if you invest in russia, you'll lose your
is the environment todayyee i f still a good place to in more or less friendly? >> there is no compare ton. when mr. putin came in, he changed the tax code which made a huge difference.ie ton. when mr. putin came in, he changed the tax code which made a huge difference. it was 13% flat tax, corporation tax 24% and suddenly you couldn't invest in companies because could you understand what was in the financials of the company. so accounting firms grew. advisory firms grew and the market...
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in realtime it adapts to the environment. nobody needs to turn any knobs or touch anything. >> in terms of your geographic revenue mix, 65% of sales come from foreign customers. what are geographies you're most exposed to? >> we have geographically distributed. our business came from geography. we're not dependent on any particular region. however, this whole mobile internet is really a secular movement that crosses all regions as well as different markets and so we are not dependent on any single market. >> about 90 million in net proceeds to the company from this ipo. what are you going to do with the money? >> i think we will buy some shoes. no. >> that's a lot of shoes. >> there's a lot of investment to be made. we feel very strong about the market so in the near term we are going to certainly invest in our engineering and sales and service but also i think, you know, there are lots of technologies in adjacent markets that are interesting. we may want to grow faster than we would -- >> thank you for stopping by. selina lo
in realtime it adapts to the environment. nobody needs to turn any knobs or touch anything. >> in terms of your geographic revenue mix, 65% of sales come from foreign customers. what are geographies you're most exposed to? >> we have geographically distributed. our business came from geography. we're not dependent on any particular region. however, this whole mobile internet is really a secular movement that crosses all regions as well as different markets and so we are not...
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there's a little bit of a risk on type environment at the moment. and the ten year bund yield moving a little higher. the same goes for spain, built oig and yield, as well. we were looking at the euro just bouncing a little bit against the dollar. you're heading into this morning's session, we're holding on to those gains, 127 and a bit. the dollar yen coming off by just a tad. president obama meeting with myanmar's president and opposition leader. obama saying his six hour stopover should be seen as a sign of support for myanmar's attempts at democratic reforms rather than endorsement of the country's government. meanwhile his three day trip is also aimed at reinforcing america's ties with the region. analysts say it's something china is watching very closely. deidre has more. >> the obama's administration to choose southeast asia as the president's first foreign trip since winning re-election was greeted by some with surprise. after all, there are far bigger economies in asia that warrant his attention. the strategic importance of southeast asia i
there's a little bit of a risk on type environment at the moment. and the ten year bund yield moving a little higher. the same goes for spain, built oig and yield, as well. we were looking at the euro just bouncing a little bit against the dollar. you're heading into this morning's session, we're holding on to those gains, 127 and a bit. the dollar yen coming off by just a tad. president obama meeting with myanmar's president and opposition leader. obama saying his six hour stopover should be...
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whitman said it would be a fix and rebuild year in a worsening macroeconomic environment. she said to expect a broad based profit decline across most businesses, but especially in enterprise services where revenue would drop 11% to 13%. operating margins near zero. that set as 24rethreshold for everything else. hp needs to keep the other business declines in the mid single digits or it will look like the turn around will take longer to turn up. >> joining us is stephanie link at the street.com. thanks very much for joining us. plenty withere to pick up on. what do you think will happen with revenues? >> hi, ross. i think that there's a chance at least on on the bottom line that the company will meet and actually could even beat consensus just because of cost controls. so the headline print of earnings might be better than expected. but to your point of revenues, i definitely think they will be below plan. some are expecting as low as a billion miss. i don't know if it that's the case. but clearly with 50% of their total revenues being pcs and printers, they have problems n
whitman said it would be a fix and rebuild year in a worsening macroeconomic environment. she said to expect a broad based profit decline across most businesses, but especially in enterprise services where revenue would drop 11% to 13%. operating margins near zero. that set as 24rethreshold for everything else. hp needs to keep the other business declines in the mid single digits or it will look like the turn around will take longer to turn up. >> joining us is stephanie link at the...
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in the kind of mack troe environment we see going forward, we still think there is a place for those high-quality defensive stocks so there is a thesis there apart from the dividend. but, getting on to the high-yield question, with a higher tax rate next year, what it does is i think it makes it quite important for investors to think about asset location and perhaps there's a more efficient place to hold these assets that are becoming less tax efficient. for instance, hold them in your i.r.a. don't hold them in your taxable account. >> let's channel our inner howie mandel, deal or no deal on the fiscal cliff? >> we think deal but not this year. we think there will be a deal around the framework potentially but that the real tax and entitlement reform discussions will have to be hammered out in 2013. >> katie nixon, thanks for being with us. >>> let's hear what washington has to say and we'll talk about that more later on this hour of -- >> tyler, despite what could be positive developments, our economy is still of course to a certain extent being held hostage as we await the outcome
in the kind of mack troe environment we see going forward, we still think there is a place for those high-quality defensive stocks so there is a thesis there apart from the dividend. but, getting on to the high-yield question, with a higher tax rate next year, what it does is i think it makes it quite important for investors to think about asset location and perhaps there's a more efficient place to hold these assets that are becoming less tax efficient. for instance, hold them in your i.r.a....
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so without clarity where the euro area goes, the environment will be quite difficult. p. >> okay. thanks very much for that. now, he mentioned weakness in europe. that's extending to the u.s. we are seeing futures trying to rebond here, but again, we saw levels of decline in the range of 1.3 to 1.5 yesterday for the major bourses. this morning we're really only getting about 25 points in rebound for the dow jones industrial average. which is thousand sitting at 12,559. the nasdaq and s&p are also showing a little about the of a r rebit of a rebound, but not huge moves. investors digest the growth tigs or lack thereof. spain is trying to move to the up side adding almost 0.3%, so a little better than last time we checked in. the other three down. as we're learning about the slowing of the german economy and the ftse 100, shedding 0.4%, below the 5700 mark. now, we are seeing in the uk a little better, but broadly speaking a mixed picture. we started off seeing both spain and italy moving to the down side on the bond side. now italy doing a little bit better. 4.95%. the yield fallin
so without clarity where the euro area goes, the environment will be quite difficult. p. >> okay. thanks very much for that. now, he mentioned weakness in europe. that's extending to the u.s. we are seeing futures trying to rebond here, but again, we saw levels of decline in the range of 1.3 to 1.5 yesterday for the major bourses. this morning we're really only getting about 25 points in rebound for the dow jones industrial average. which is thousand sitting at 12,559. the nasdaq and...
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especially the thing about the ip spending environment, it's a tough spending environment. security is one of the few sub sectors that's holding up well and that's kind of a glimmer of hope in a tough macro. >> i presume they'd have to pony up, though. daniel, good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> looking for silver lining amid the cyber security storm clouds. >> one story to leave you with, in queensland in australia, earlier this morning they got a full solar eclipse, completely blocked out the sun at 6:39 local time. we might just see it before we go. >> wow. it's amazing. >> there we go. we've got it. >> and on that lunar shot, kelly and i will say goodbye. "squawk box" is up next. >> we'll see you back here tomorrow. >>> the looming fiscal cliff. some of the nation's best-known ceos are headed to the white house today to meet the with the president. >>> on the economic agenda, key reads on the consumer and inflation and that happens before the bell. in corporate news, cisco's first quarter results beat the street, but ceo john chambers cautions of flat earnings
especially the thing about the ip spending environment, it's a tough spending environment. security is one of the few sub sectors that's holding up well and that's kind of a glimmer of hope in a tough macro. >> i presume they'd have to pony up, though. daniel, good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> looking for silver lining amid the cyber security storm clouds. >> one story to leave you with, in queensland in australia, earlier this morning they got a full solar...
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and this kind ever environment is good for gold much as india we expect the same scenario very possibly to be unfolding shortly in the united states and in europe where the quantitative easing policies aren't really working to stimulate the economy or they're doing really creating inflation. probably what the countries have to do in order to avoid a debt default because most countries have lost control of the debt situation. so the only way to avoid the default in our view would probably be to print to devalue the debt but this real terms, that means inflation. so inflation is very much the main focus of gold for us and that's yes with think it will go a lot higher from here. >> martin, what then is your price target for gold by the end of, say, 2013? >> firstly we don't sell short price targets. we've seen this 2008 that sometimes also what many people should actually see or recognize earlier possibly as a safe haven, sometimes they can also take a hit if you have shorter term deleveraging. so let's say if spain or italy was to default early next year, then you you might see first reac
and this kind ever environment is good for gold much as india we expect the same scenario very possibly to be unfolding shortly in the united states and in europe where the quantitative easing policies aren't really working to stimulate the economy or they're doing really creating inflation. probably what the countries have to do in order to avoid a debt default because most countries have lost control of the debt situation. so the only way to avoid the default in our view would probably be to...
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and low growth environment. that makes sense to me. >> aren't financials a leadership group? if they can't lead doesn't that bode poor for the market? >> we still like financials. i think they're underowned. >> you disagree with the premise? >> we have nim headwind -- >> nim? >> i thought the meant the national institute of mental health. >> maybe, maybe. you can't tell the difference sometimes. >> you've downgraded the financials. >> still overweight insurance. neutral on the banks for a while, the regional banks for a while. it was more specific to the capital market sense of the games, the investment banks, the brokerage firms, asset managers, that kind of area. >> if we get a deal, how much does the market rally? >> i know a lot of clients say they'll chase this market up 2%. they want to be flat. if the market gets a big bid, they'll chase it. i think you'll get a beta chase. i think it's quite possible to be 1430 by year end. >> do you chase it? >> i think if we get a deal mid to late december, that's when
and low growth environment. that makes sense to me. >> aren't financials a leadership group? if they can't lead doesn't that bode poor for the market? >> we still like financials. i think they're underowned. >> you disagree with the premise? >> we have nim headwind -- >> nim? >> i thought the meant the national institute of mental health. >> maybe, maybe. you can't tell the difference sometimes. >> you've downgraded the financials. >> still...
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natural gas, fracking, and the environment. each week keep it here where wall street meets main street. have a great week, everybody. see you next weekend.
natural gas, fracking, and the environment. each week keep it here where wall street meets main street. have a great week, everybody. see you next weekend.
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we'll ask a top ranked analyst how investors in fiscal cliffs should be playing the current environment when squawk returns. >>> many sectors of the economy would be directly affected if the u.s. economy goes off the fiscal cliff. not the least of which, the financials. we were talking about the white house and the meeting that happened yesterday. only ken chenault, of all the financials, and i don't know if you put him in the traditional category, not a classic wall street guy, is that a problem? >> i think that was an omission, there were no large commercial bankers or wall street bankers in that meeting yesterday. so i thought that was quite interesting that the white house chose not to invite anyone. >> where are you on on financials right now? the stocks have come off. it's been a horrific little ride here. >> it has. the bank stocks have been one of the best performing sectors going into the third quarter. they're up over 20%. they've been one of the weakest sectors since the third quarter results. and i think what's happened is this fiscal cliff has everybody concerned especially
we'll ask a top ranked analyst how investors in fiscal cliffs should be playing the current environment when squawk returns. >>> many sectors of the economy would be directly affected if the u.s. economy goes off the fiscal cliff. not the least of which, the financials. we were talking about the white house and the meeting that happened yesterday. only ken chenault, of all the financials, and i don't know if you put him in the traditional category, not a classic wall street guy, is...
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on the back of -- you know, just positive improvement in environment for the financials overall. steve saying that -- of the financials bank of america has the most eps leverage to bounce back in this environment. bank of america biggest percentage gain other the dow. leading financials higher. >> josh brown, buyer here? >> no. i actually on a technicality base list tell you that $10, can clear there with conviction, meaning high volume, and then retest and stay above. that's a really -- safe entry point to buy for a short term trade. under ten, i still there are there are too many sellers and your way. i would wait for that confirmation and think it is worth it. >> are you positive on any of the banks? you are negative on the overall market a little bit. >> we like -- we like and we are long. berkshire hathaway which is the largest holdser of wells fargo and very heavily leveraged to the at the same time thing most of the banks are. home building and mortgages. we would prefer to play through the b shares of berkshire than owning any of these banks outright. especially something
on the back of -- you know, just positive improvement in environment for the financials overall. steve saying that -- of the financials bank of america has the most eps leverage to bounce back in this environment. bank of america biggest percentage gain other the dow. leading financials higher. >> josh brown, buyer here? >> no. i actually on a technicality base list tell you that $10, can clear there with conviction, meaning high volume, and then retest and stay above. that's a...
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based on what we think the macroeconomic environment is going to do. >> so you were at that meeting at the white house this week. you joined a number of ceos at the white house yesterday. did the president give you hope that layoffs can be avoided at aetna? how was that meeting? >> i thought the meeting was a very constructive, very frank and open dialogue. i was impressed with the level and the grasp of the issues that the president had and his willingness to listen to american business about the ways that we needed to solve this problem. i think there is is a path to get this done. it's not going to get all done before the end of the year. but i think our message to the president was we're here to support you if you can avoid the cliff and put together a very specific framework on how we're going to get the economy going. because going over the cliff creates more joblessness. and if we can avoid that, we still don't grow the economy in 2013, so we need to show the business community, and quite frankly, all americans, that we have a plan to deal with this deficit so that we can grow e
based on what we think the macroeconomic environment is going to do. >> so you were at that meeting at the white house this week. you joined a number of ceos at the white house yesterday. did the president give you hope that layoffs can be avoided at aetna? how was that meeting? >> i thought the meeting was a very constructive, very frank and open dialogue. i was impressed with the level and the grasp of the issues that the president had and his willingness to listen to american...
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when we bought it just superior business model in a tough environment. if things get better, great, employment improves, we're going to have more hook-ups, housing improves, more connections, great growth story. if things don't get better, we're trying to protect for the downside and keep that optionalty if the economy improves. comcast could be a monster return on capital going forward. and that's been a big core holding for quite a while, as well. >> no kidding, you've done well -- you bought it down in the low 20s? >> i don't know the actual cost price in front of me. i can tell you it's been one of our big holdings for a couple of years. home depot and lowe's we bought at the end of '11. we had a thesis that housing was bottoming. and now the housing improvement is accelerating and that's a big deal for the u.s. economy when you think about the spillover effect in construction jobs, you know, furniture, auto, cement, everything that comes with household formation in new home purchases. >> well, we want to thank you for joining us today. >> my pleasur
when we bought it just superior business model in a tough environment. if things get better, great, employment improves, we're going to have more hook-ups, housing improves, more connections, great growth story. if things don't get better, we're trying to protect for the downside and keep that optionalty if the economy improves. comcast could be a monster return on capital going forward. and that's been a big core holding for quite a while, as well. >> no kidding, you've done well -- you...
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he says it remains one of caution in this environment. carl, back to you. >> wednesday is the day when they name the new partners at goldman, i believe. >> that's right. >> people waiting for the call. >> people close to or a source close to goldman sachs says it will be the smallest class in over a decade. probably less than 70 will be named partners at goldman sachs this year. back to you. >> thank you so much. mary thompson at headquarters. a big mover in drilling and natural gas space. >> weatherford this morning off 12% at 3.5 year low. the company warning that fourth quarter is going to come in for earnings below consensus on that number. and they also said that they still have not been able to resolve what they call material weakness in internal controls over financial reporting. they actually didn't break out their third quarter numbers. stock getting hit hard on a day when energy is already to the downside. >> motor trend magazine naming tesla's sedan the car of the year. will the model live up to the hype? we'll find out when te
he says it remains one of caution in this environment. carl, back to you. >> wednesday is the day when they name the new partners at goldman, i believe. >> that's right. >> people waiting for the call. >> people close to or a source close to goldman sachs says it will be the smallest class in over a decade. probably less than 70 will be named partners at goldman sachs this year. back to you. >> thank you so much. mary thompson at headquarters. a big mover in...
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they'd like to know what environment they're operating in. they effect them personally and the families of the people that work for them. >> can you get a franchise alone? is it easier than it was a year ago? >> yeah, credit market has loosened up a bit for our franchisees and we're fortunate our model in the investment on the investment side that we don't have to be highly leveraged and our franchisees don't have to be highly leveraged going in. they're able to pay investment out of cash but whenner this borrow money they're getting sba loans out there, smaller banks but it is tougher and it affects their growth. that's for sure. >> the smell is killing me here, i mean in a good way. it's 5:00 somewhere or noon somewhere. bob wright, thank you. we appreciate your time this morning and keep it short. >> are you going for the sub? which way? >> i don't know. >> i could eat it but i know he's an ohio state fan. go blue this weekend. i'm going to holdoff. >>> when we come back we'll talk about betting on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. caesar'
they'd like to know what environment they're operating in. they effect them personally and the families of the people that work for them. >> can you get a franchise alone? is it easier than it was a year ago? >> yeah, credit market has loosened up a bit for our franchisees and we're fortunate our model in the investment on the investment side that we don't have to be highly leveraged and our franchisees don't have to be highly leveraged going in. they're able to pay investment out...
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headline driven in this environment. yesterday you saw the sharp rally toward the end of the session. was it because of the rumor that spain might have a bailout or was it the rumor that potentially they were bundled 44 million euros together for greece? i don't know. it clearly moved the market, both of those things incidentally didn't happen. longer term, if you look at what is happening, europe versus the united states, you can see the effect of the fiscal cliff in the wake of the obama victory. here you see the yellow line here is the top 50 blue chips in europe. how they have traded over the last month. this is the dow jones industrial average. you'll see that under performance now, 4.5% as a result arguably of that fiscal cliff and arguably where the election left us. >> it's going to get tougher sledding. >>> meantime other capital markets op-ed, gary is looking although a few charts as he did yesterday. >> you know, carl, great piece by riches warning people about bond funds versus bonds. a lot of people ignore t
headline driven in this environment. yesterday you saw the sharp rally toward the end of the session. was it because of the rumor that spain might have a bailout or was it the rumor that potentially they were bundled 44 million euros together for greece? i don't know. it clearly moved the market, both of those things incidentally didn't happen. longer term, if you look at what is happening, europe versus the united states, you can see the effect of the fiscal cliff in the wake of the obama...
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340 to 360 a share but we guide what we think is realistic for q-1 which is a tough macro economic environment. a lot of our savings in terms of our savings program will be back end loaded because a lot of that is labor now moving to europe where it is much more difficult to separate people and takes longer and then some of our nonlabor savings we're instituting that executional excellence around skew reduction supply chain and those will kick in in the second half but perhaps most importantly we have some fantastic product coming up and i think i've been clear that companies come in on the backs of terrific products and those will kick in in the second half. >> many would say that they're going to have to. to those that would say what you're really do is managing a declining business because at the end of the day the rise of the tablet is actually the fall of the pc and printing because people just carry this thing around with them everywhere. how do you challenge that assumption that really all you're doing is managing a declining business. you may be managing it well. that's what it is. >>
340 to 360 a share but we guide what we think is realistic for q-1 which is a tough macro economic environment. a lot of our savings in terms of our savings program will be back end loaded because a lot of that is labor now moving to europe where it is much more difficult to separate people and takes longer and then some of our nonlabor savings we're instituting that executional excellence around skew reduction supply chain and those will kick in in the second half but perhaps most importantly...
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that is a real scoop in an environment where there are no deals, david brought us a very good scoop. >> that's why you haven't participated in any of this. there are no other deals. this was the only one. >> not many needles in the hay stack. >> david found the only one. thank you for bringing it here, david. boyd jeffries name. >> what was it exposure in europe? >> egan had all sorts of rhymes and reasons for that company falling apart. >> we'll talk about shipping right now, from i-phones to apparel, cnbc's senior talent producer, lori ann larocco, our staff, incredible producer and her book "dynasties of the sea," and lori ann, reading through this, we know how important shipping is, we talk about it every day but there were things i didn't realize how much of the things in our homes are brought to us from ships. >> 92% of everything in a household has been on a ship and ever since superstorm sandy we've all realized how important shipping is as we're all going through this gasoline crisis. it's really amazing in terms of the wide breadth that the shipping industry has on the econ
that is a real scoop in an environment where there are no deals, david brought us a very good scoop. >> that's why you haven't participated in any of this. there are no other deals. this was the only one. >> not many needles in the hay stack. >> david found the only one. thank you for bringing it here, david. boyd jeffries name. >> what was it exposure in europe? >> egan had all sorts of rhymes and reasons for that company falling apart. >> we'll talk about...
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most of the people that trade the bank stocks right now say low interest rate environment and no growth or low growth environmentment in 2013. reason they are not particularly optimistic. today these stocks are bouncing back. carl, they have been beaten up badly in the last couple of months. >> thanks, bob. bob pisani. send it back to head quarters and kayla. she has the market flash. >> watching diamond food. the stock tlaubled for the last year a half. down another 11% today on a downgrade from jefferies. jefferies saying there is a -- 33% more downside for this company to go. last week it restated earnings for the last two years. wipe out about $56 million in profit. they had problem was their accounting and with the payme payments. >> meantime, tensions rising in the middle east. senior official close to binyamin netanyahu is ready for ground invasion in the gaza strip but prefers diplomatic solution to that conflict. >> reporter: hello there. in fact, it is nighttime in g . gaza. the attention is shifting south of where we are. focusing more on cairo, egypt. that's where intense ne
most of the people that trade the bank stocks right now say low interest rate environment and no growth or low growth environmentment in 2013. reason they are not particularly optimistic. today these stocks are bouncing back. carl, they have been beaten up badly in the last couple of months. >> thanks, bob. bob pisani. send it back to head quarters and kayla. she has the market flash. >> watching diamond food. the stock tlaubled for the last year a half. down another 11% today on a...
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shops in this consolidated apple like checkout, iphone, anyone can check you out, it's efficient, nice environment. it's the apple store customer interface combined with the best brands of the world in a small geography. we had $250 a square foot in sales with the traffic down 12%. >> for your sake and for ron johnson's sake i hope this works and i love a great come back story. >> i want to leave our viewers with one thing. the biggest problem people have with something like this, how can i own a stock when the sales are down 26%? i'll make one analogy and help people think about how to value this company. we took a stake in wendy's, why did people not like wendy's? i get a chance we come back after a commercial, i'm happy to stay. >> i think we're going. >> give me one minute and i'm happy to come back another time. wendy's, people hated the management, there was a fast growing company called tim horton's inside wendys. we separated and the stock doubled. we have this fast growing retail inside jcpenney, profitable and high margins and the rest of jcpenney is shrinking. it's hard to look at it on
shops in this consolidated apple like checkout, iphone, anyone can check you out, it's efficient, nice environment. it's the apple store customer interface combined with the best brands of the world in a small geography. we had $250 a square foot in sales with the traffic down 12%. >> for your sake and for ron johnson's sake i hope this works and i love a great come back story. >> i want to leave our viewers with one thing. the biggest problem people have with something like this,...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. >>> hard rock international is teaming up with yoko ono. and why hunger for the imagine there's no hunger campaign. horn $4.5 would million has been raised during the past five years and the president and ce off of the hard rock cafe has been very involved in this. tell us a little bit it. >> thanks for having me. this is a ram we've beprogram w running for many years. there are a billion people beneath poverty and hunger level in the world. and the program really is a program that enjoins why hunger, yoko ono and ourselves and we encourage our staff and our customers to basically provide funding around this holiday season so t
technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. >>> hard rock...